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thecelestialchild:

I don’t think it’s fair to blame God for “evil.” We have free will. We have choices. But our choices all create consequences that affect all of us. Our choices are bigger than us and will have lasting impacts, regardless of how small.

The argument that “God can foresee things happening and doesn’t prevent them” presents the issue of a God that is more concerned with playing Sims than letting us grow and learn. The argument that “God doesn’t prevent natural disasters” calls into question why nature is nature. It just is.

Personally, I believe God created this world, through nature. Billions of years of evolution, cosmic eruptions, volcanoes that made land, star dust, etc. Nature is perfect. Hurricanes have been here. Tornadoes have been here. Floods, earthquakes, etc. They’ve been here. It’s how we’re here. And it’s rather a sad thing to blame God for the poor choices we as humans have made. We set out to conquer the earth instead of living in harmony with it. The forest is beautiful. Forest fires are a natural occurrence and burns the old to make room for the new. It has been that way since the beginning. Is it sad when a community built on the outskirts of a forest experiences tragedy? Yes. Without a doubt. But look at where we built with no regard to nature! Is it sad when hurricanes wash upon the shore and human life is lost. Yes. Of course it is. But we built on beaches with no regard to how this world operates. We think we can control nature. And nature, trying to balance itself, responds. How do you blame God for that? That’s how things are.

We don’t like to take accountability for our actions or decisions, but everything we experience outside of nature is a consequence of choices someone made. Everything.

“Why would God allow this child to be killed by a stray bullet?” In the year A, man created a weapon to defend himself. The weapon, and reason behind its creation, evolved. In year T, PERSON1 was born into a disenfranchised family that was made disenfranchised by the actions (or inactions) of someone 300 years prior. This person was able to obtain this evolved weapon for reasons stemming back to year D to protect himself in a street war that is the result of choices made in years L-P. Year R brought PERSON2 into the opposing side of the neighborhood. As a result of the street war going on, PERSON1 was ordered or decided to kill PERSON2. He missed. Unfortunately, an innocent bystander was killed. Not one of those choices was made by God. Not one. God didn’t “allow” this. we did. We as a human race have to take accountability for what we bring into this world.

The simple answer to “why doesn’t God prevent evil?” is: We keep choosing it.

Interesting. If you believe god created this world through nature, then surely naturally occuring things such as tornadoes and floods are made by god? If you say god began it and then left it to run on it’s own, then are you saying that nature is spontaneous? And if so, does it even require a god at all? If god is not watching over us, then can it be assumed you don’t see any point in praying to alter outcomes?
I don’t think that anything we do can be experienced outside of nature seeing as we are nature itself. I wouldn’t say nature is perfect, because it’s a continually evolving process, and that when given random influences that are negative to survival it can go phenomenally ‘wrong’. However, it is driven by natural selection, which itself is a beautifully simple system that I guess I would describe as perfect, or at least the best way of obtaining perfection if it was at all possible.
So my question is, what is god actually doing then? As has already been stated, god doesn’t involve himself in human affairs because he’s not into playing Sims. He doesn’t even interfere and put a stop to extreme cases of cruelty, he just stands by, watching with complete apathy as women are being raped and children are being killed, actions which are clearly no fault of the victims, and yet he still doesn’t do anything about it, so the idea of him being a loving and caring god is out as well.
Even if you can say that god gave us free will (an incredibly complex concept to consider anyway) and if we use that free will to perform horrific actions, it is not the fault of god, then how do you explain naturally occuring illnesses and diseases? Things which we have no input in. Things that I would consider ‘evil’ parts of nature when considering the effect they have on human lives. Just for example, pregnancy and the changing hormone levels can possibly accelerate the growth of cancer cells, and therefore a woman can die of cancer within a few months of giving birth to her little baby. Are you saying somehow humanity chose that outcome? Or that god sees that nature randomly throws life threatening viruses and bacteria into the mix but just lets them stay in there anyway to make life that little bit worse? I would explain it as the painful truth of life, that nature is not good or evil, it’s completely indifferent, and that everything is, without even knowing it in many cases, doing its best to survive, and will continue to do so whether considered a good or bad thing by human standards.. and that by separating human affairs from god so much, the original post has made actually rather clear points for, if not the non-existence of god, then definitely the point that god doesn’t deserve neither our respect or acknowledgement, and certainly not our love.

Nature is nature. Things evolved the way they have for reasons we don’t understand. I didn’t blame humanity for what nature does or has done. At no point did I characterize nature as “good” or “evil.” I said it was perfect. Because it’s balanced. Diseases are life, too. Just life that seems to thrive on the demise of others. But let me state, we have altered food and water supplies, increasing hormones in what we eat, adding vitamins to everything, fortifying everything. While this isn’t the end-all, be all cause of sickness it does play a factor.

And I didn’t say God does not involve itself in human affairs. I didn’t imply that in the least. The Sims is a game in which you control. We are not controlled as if this were a video game. Your argument reads as though you expect God to hold a hand out and catch all of the dark things we decide to do, or to appear in balls of fire and yell no, or remove free will. And I’ve discussed faith and nature enough to know not hold deep conversations about the existence or nonexistence of anything. If you don’t believe in a God, you simply don’t and nothing I say would make you. Not that I’m trying to. But in the very same right, if I do believe in a God, I simply do, and nothing you say would change that. The point of this post was not to call into question the existence or nonexistence of any being. It was simply to remove blame from blameless acts in regards to my faith.

As far as I’m concerned, God exists, God is present, God cares. It’s neither my concern nor my business if you don’t feel the same.

spiritualinspiration:

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. (Hebrews 13:8, NKJV.)
One of the reasons it’s so important to know the Word of God is not only to learn His promises and His ways, but to understand His character. What He’s done for others, He will do for you. The same God who displayed His favor in the Bible is still at work today. I believe God wants to flood you with the same favor He flooded Joseph, Abraham and Elijah with. I believe He wants to open new doors, line up supernatural appointments, and bring new increase and provision. The question is, are you ready to receive it? Can you see it with your eyes of faith?
Today, know that our God is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is with you and for you. Even before you see things turn around, believe that He is working on your behalf. And when He pours out His favor, it won’t be just a drizzle; it’s going to be a flood—a flood of ideas, a flood of good breaks, a flood of talent. Keep believing, keep hoping and keep praising because the same favor that was in the Bible is coming your way!
Prayer for Today:Father, thank You for Your favor and blessing which is available to me each and every day. I turn my heart and mind toward You. I submit my ways to You knowing that You are faithful. I open my heart to receive everything You have in store for me in Jesus’ name.

spiritualinspiration:

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. (Hebrews 13:8, NKJV.)

One of the reasons it’s so important to know the Word of God is not only to learn His promises and His ways, but to understand His character. What He’s done for others, He will do for you. The same God who displayed His favor in the Bible is still at work today. I believe God wants to flood you with the same favor He flooded Joseph, Abraham and Elijah with. I believe He wants to open new doors, line up supernatural appointments, and bring new increase and provision. The question is, are you ready to receive it? Can you see it with your eyes of faith?

Today, know that our God is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is with you and for you. Even before you see things turn around, believe that He is working on your behalf. And when He pours out His favor, it won’t be just a drizzle; it’s going to be a flood—a flood of ideas, a flood of good breaks, a flood of talent. Keep believing, keep hoping and keep praising because the same favor that was in the Bible is coming your way!

Prayer for Today:
Father, thank You for Your favor and blessing which is available to me each and every day. I turn my heart and mind toward You. I submit my ways to You knowing that You are faithful. I open my heart to receive everything You have in store for me in Jesus’ name.

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